Welcome

Please register to have access to more features!

It is highly recommended that you have Javascript enabled; many features will not work unless you do. The recommended browsers are Firefox and Chrome; the board is also NOT mobile-friendly.

Please invite your friends!

If you were referred by someone (ex. me, Jessica) please put their username in the referral box on the registration page. Ask them if you don't know their username.

If you are visiting for TESTING PURPOSES ONLY, this is the test account information:


Username:
Test
Password: test123



Select a forum to post in:

Drowning in the din

All feedback should go here!

Moderator: Jessica

Followers: TheMatrix

Drowning in the din

Post Number: #1  Postby TheMatrix » July 21st, 2013, 5:36 am

(Hello, yes, I am back)

While this website shows potential, I feel I must explain what you are doing wrong that might just be driving people away from your site.

For comparison purposes, I want you to imagine a new install of phpBB. It has nothing too fancy on it, it is a forum where you can post threads and replies. Now if you'll notice, many sites have just that and not much more, and they have lots of activity. More on that later.
Now look at your own site, with the picture of the new install still in your mind. Are you not overwhelmed by the sheer loudness and distraction of it all? Name a "mod", and you've probably got it installed. Virtual currency? Check. Overly complicated editor? Check. Many "custom BBCodes"? Check that too.
And I could go on.

Oh hey, there's a link called "Forums" in the corner! Apparently, they have that too! But first I must look at the Ideas Center and the Knowledgebase and the "Modx Creator"(whatever that is) and the "Linkx" and the...
Do you see the problem? There's simply too much!

One thing you learn about website design, if you ever follow the most basic course, is that first impression is everything. No scrolling to have to see the content. If I have to scroll to see the content, I'll probably click back and go somewhere else. On your site, the header + "Important Announcements" takes up my entire view on this 1366x768 screen. Now imagine if you were on your mobile...

Now the editor. What makes a forum tick? When you get down to it, it's ultimately the text, not the way it's presented. Our parents grew up in the days when you could not add formatting to your eMails and Usenet postings. If people had something meaningful to say, they would not put kilobytes upon kilobytes of ASCII art in their message. Long eMail signatures were resented.
The same thing applies here. I don't care about being able to highlight my text, or setting it in one of many dozen fonts. I just want to convey my message to you, the reader, so you will understand it. If I wanted to distract you, then I would use fonts and animated pictures. Perhaps I should not say this, but look at the two most popular GovTeen network sites. The editor is many times simpler than the one here, and apparently it works.

Your site appears to be striving for that one-stop-site thing that Yahoo! and AOL were going for in the 90's and 2000's. But nobody wanted that then, and apparently still not now, or both would be very popular. But they aren't.

I feel I've rambled on long enough now, and you probably get the point. But if you want more, well, I've barely started!
I'm not going to explicitly propose anything. It's up to you what to do with this: if you don't wish to hear it, then you may delete my words. You are the owner of this forum, and I did agree in the rules that you could delete things as you pleased(see? I did read them!).
I will say this: look at popular sites and what design trends seem to be getting them traffic. Follow those, and you might get some more activity.
  • -5

~Thomas~
"People get annoyed when you try to debug them."
-- Larry Wall
User avatar
TheMatrix
Only human.
Topic Author

Coal
 
8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership
 
Posts: 7
Topics: 2
Joined: July 13th, 2011, 2:08 am
Local time: November 14th, 2019, 6:49 pm
Last Visit: July 22nd, 2013, 12:21 am
Gender: Other
Cash on hand: 13.37
Bank: 106.39
Reputation: -5
Blog: View Blog (0)
Subject(s): Computer Science, Computer Programming, Dutch, English

Re: Drowning in the din

Post Number: #2  Postby Jessica » July 24th, 2013, 8:34 pm

If you really hate the editor you can change it. Simply go here: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=post
  • 0

User avatar
Jessica
Board Owner

Founder
Sapphire
Sapphire
 
8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership
 
Posts: 3,470
Topics: 1,244
Articles: 30
Joined: December 22nd, 2010, 8:04 pm
Local time: November 14th, 2019, 1:49 pm
Last Visit: Today, 11:38 am
Location: Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Cash on hand: 4,778.58
Bank: 145,579.08
Reputation: 148
Medals: 20
#1: July 2012 1st Place (1) R-Contest #1 First Place (1) Best staff member 2013 (1) Easter Egg Hunt 2013 (1) Graphic Drawing Participant (1) 1 Year (1) 2 Years (1) 3 Years (1) 4 Years (1) 5 Years (1)
6 Years (1) 7 Years (1) 8 Years (1) Founder (1) Highest Rep (1) Referrer (1) Top poster (1) Facebook group (1) Pin-Board (1) Article Author (1)
Referrals: 27
Blog: View Blog (479)
Subject(s): Chinese, Math
Global Moderator
Admin
Moderator

Re: Drowning in the din

Post Number: #3  Postby Filip » July 25th, 2013, 7:59 pm

Well I appreciate founder's effort to make site as feature rich as possible but I agree that it is too much. All those mods are too complicated for new users to figure out and that's what makes them go away. I think simple bulletin boards with only few mods like chatbox and awards is good enough. And also having alot of mods make site loading very slow. Esspecialy for those guys who are not as cl ose to the server.
  • 0

Filip
Coder!

Moderator
Coal
Coal
 
6 years of membership6 years of membership6 years of membership6 years of membership6 years of membership6 years of membership
 
Posts: 19
Topics: 4
Joined: March 7th, 2013, 10:21 am
Local time: November 14th, 2019, 7:49 pm
Last Visit: June 10th, 2015, 8:15 pm
Location: Varaždin, Croatia
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Cash on hand: 61.22
Reputation: 4
Medals: 2
Graphic Drawing Participant (1) 3 Years (1)
Blog: View Blog (0)
Name: Filip
Subject(s): IT, Math, Physics

Re: Drowning in the din

Post Number: #4  Postby Knight Rider » July 25th, 2013, 8:45 pm

Filip » Jul 25 2013, 6:59 pm wrote:
Well I appreciate founder's effort to make site as feature rich as possible but I agree that it is too much. All those mods are too complicated for new users to figure out and that's what makes them go away. I think simple bulletin boards with only few mods like chatbox and awards is good enough. And also having alot of mods make site loading very slow. Esspecialy for those guys who are not as close to the server.


I sort of agree with this, but then again, what is the Support Sections for?
But, I do 50% agree with the loading time.
At good times for my Internet it loads speedy fast, other times though, like around 11 PM, or midnight it loads a bit slower
  • 0

Questions about Knight Rider? PM me (I'll answer them ASAP, to the best of my ability)
GTA IV EPS Clan on Facebook
Urgent Message for me?
No matter what Forum, I do not tolerate any type of Spam.
Wanna keep up with my life? ----> My Blog - My Twitter - My Instagram
GTA IV PC Clan?
Right This Way ----> (Access Issues? --> contact@gta-epsclan.ca)
User avatar
Knight Rider
Knight Rider Fan

Global Moderator
Onyx
Onyx
 
7 years of membership7 years of membership7 years of membership7 years of membership7 years of membership7 years of membership7 years of membership
 
Posts: 234
Topics: 54
Joined: February 26th, 2012, 8:53 pm
Local time: November 14th, 2019, 11:49 am
Last Visit: October 29th, 2019, 10:22 pm
Location: Moderating S&C, my Forums & living life
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Cash on hand: 10.00
Bank: 28,067.36
Reputation: 10
Medals: 8
Best staff member 2013 (1) Graphic Drawing Participant (1) 2 Years (1) 5 Years (1) Referrer (1) Feedback Survey (1) Facebook group (1) Pin-Board (1)
Referrals: 1
Blog: View Blog (96)
Name: Paul
Subject(s): Currently Unavailable
Teacher

Re: Drowning in the din

Post Number: #5  Postby Jessica » July 26th, 2013, 2:06 pm

If you think there are mods S&C really doesn't need, you can make a suggestion to remove it in the Ideas Center. No guarantee that I will agree though :S
  • 0

User avatar
Jessica
Board Owner

Founder
Sapphire
Sapphire
 
8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership8 years of membership
 
Posts: 3,470
Topics: 1,244
Articles: 30
Joined: December 22nd, 2010, 8:04 pm
Local time: November 14th, 2019, 1:49 pm
Last Visit: Today, 11:38 am
Location: Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Cash on hand: 4,778.58
Bank: 145,579.08
Reputation: 148
Medals: 20
#1: July 2012 1st Place (1) R-Contest #1 First Place (1) Best staff member 2013 (1) Easter Egg Hunt 2013 (1) Graphic Drawing Participant (1) 1 Year (1) 2 Years (1) 3 Years (1) 4 Years (1) 5 Years (1)
6 Years (1) 7 Years (1) 8 Years (1) Founder (1) Highest Rep (1) Referrer (1) Top poster (1) Facebook group (1) Pin-Board (1) Article Author (1)
Referrals: 27
Blog: View Blog (479)
Subject(s): Chinese, Math
Global Moderator
Admin
Moderator


Return to Feedback Box

Login  •  Register
cron
Reputation System ©'